New ASSIGNMENT: Blogging There is a lot of information. Please take the time and read.
The following is from WordPress.org
"Blog" is an abbreviated version of "weblog," which is a term used to describe web sites that maintain an ongoing chronicle of information. A blog features diary-type commentary and links to articles on other Web sites, usually presented as a list of entries in reverse chronological order. Blogs range from the personal to the political, and can focus on one narrow subject or a whole range of subjects.
We have two weeks left in this term and will spend it blogging. What this will entail is that every couple of days, you will have an article prompt to which you will respond. These responses should be subjective, much as one would write an editorial; however, they should not be diatribes, but insightful, reflective observations. At the same time, again like an editorial, there will be some controversy. Not everyone will have the same reaction.
Mechanics:
1. Read the article.
3. Respond and post your postion / obsevation / reflection. (You might want to check your information.)
4, Now read some of your classmates' responses and respond to at least two of these. Again, these are not attacks, but thoughtful reflections and observations. Again, you may want to do a little background reading to support your position.
I also want you to become familiar with some newsblogs. To begin The Huffington Post (often referred to on the Internet as HuffPo) is a politically-progressive online news website and aggregated weblog founded by Arianna Huffington and Kenneth Lerer, featuring hyperlinks to various news sources and columnists. The Huffington Post was launched on May 9, 2005 as a news and commentary outlet. Its roster of bloggers includes many people from Arianna Huffington's extensive network of prominent friends. As of August 8, 2006 it was the 5th most popular weblog overall as measured by web links. Read the first article on this weekend's attempted assassination (correct term) in Arizona. Then take a look at a couple of Huffington Post's blog resposes.
The following is from WordPress.org
"Blog" is an abbreviated version of "weblog," which is a term used to describe web sites that maintain an ongoing chronicle of information. A blog features diary-type commentary and links to articles on other Web sites, usually presented as a list of entries in reverse chronological order. Blogs range from the personal to the political, and can focus on one narrow subject or a whole range of subjects.
We have two weeks left in this term and will spend it blogging. What this will entail is that every couple of days, you will have an article prompt to which you will respond. These responses should be subjective, much as one would write an editorial; however, they should not be diatribes, but insightful, reflective observations. At the same time, again like an editorial, there will be some controversy. Not everyone will have the same reaction.
Mechanics:
1. Read the article.
3. Respond and post your postion / obsevation / reflection. (You might want to check your information.)
4, Now read some of your classmates' responses and respond to at least two of these. Again, these are not attacks, but thoughtful reflections and observations. Again, you may want to do a little background reading to support your position.
I also want you to become familiar with some newsblogs. To begin The Huffington Post (often referred to on the Internet as HuffPo) is a politically-progressive online news website and aggregated weblog founded by Arianna Huffington and Kenneth Lerer, featuring hyperlinks to various news sources and columnists. The Huffington Post was launched on May 9, 2005 as a news and commentary outlet. Its roster of bloggers includes many people from Arianna Huffington's extensive network of prominent friends. As of August 8, 2006 it was the 5th most popular weblog overall as measured by web links. Read the first article on this weekend's attempted assassination (correct term) in Arizona. Then take a look at a couple of Huffington Post's blog resposes.
Gabrielle Giffords Shot: Congresswoman Shot In Arizona
The Huffington Post/AP First Posted: 01- 8-11 01:14 PM Updated: 01- 9-11 03:17 AM
The assassination attempt left Giffords in critical condition -- the bullet went straight through her brain -- but the hospital said her outlook was "optimistic" and that she was responding to commands from doctors. The hospital said a 9-year-old child was among the killed, and a U.S. Marshal said a federal judge was also fatally shot in the attack.
Giffords spokesman C.J. Karamargin said three Giffords staffers were shot in the attack. One died, and the other two are expected to survive. Gabe Zimmerman, a former social worker who served as Giffords' director of community outreach, died.
Giffords, 40, is a moderate Democrat who narrowly won re-election in November against a tea party candidate who sought to throw her from office over her support of the health care law. Anger over her position became violent at times, with her Tucson office vandalized after the House passed the overhaul last March and someone showing up at a recent gathering with a weapon.
Police say the shooter was in custody, and was identified by people familiar with the investigation as Jared Lee Loughner, 22. U.S. officials who provided his name to the AP spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release it publicly.
It's still not clear if Loughner had the health care debate in mind or was focused on his own unique set of political beliefs, many outlined in rambling videos and postings on the Internet.
Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik described the gunman as mentally unstable and possibly acting with an accomplice. He said Giffords was among 13 people wounded in the melee that killed six people, including a 9-year-old girl, an aide for the Democratic lawmaker and U.S. District Judge John Roll, who had just stopped by to see his friend Giffords after celebrating Mass. Dupnik said the rampage ended only after two people tackled the gunman.
The sheriff blamed the vitriolic political rhetoric that has consumed the country, much of it centered in Arizona.
"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," he said. "And unfortunately, Arizona, I think, has become the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry."
Giffords expressed similar concern, even before the shooting. In an interview after her office was vandalized, she referred to the animosity against her by conservatives, including Sarah Palin's decision to list Giffords' seat as one of the top "targets" in the midterm elections.
"For example, we're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is, that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district. When people do that, they have to realize that there are consequences to that action," Giffords said in an interview with MSNBC.
In the hours after the shooting, Palin issued a statement in which she expressed her "sincere condolences" to the family of Giffords and the other victims.
During his campaign effort to unseat Giffords in November, Republican challenger Jesse Kelly held fundraisers where he urged supporters to help remove Giffords from office by joining him to shoot a fully loaded M-16 rifle. Kelly is a former Marine who served in Iraq and was pictured on his website in military gear holding his automatic weapon and promoting the event.
"I don't see the connection," between the fundraisers featuring weapons and Saturday's shooting, said John Ellinwood, Kelly's spokesman. "I don't know this person, we cannot find any records that he was associated with the campaign in any way. I just don't see the connection.
"Arizona is a state where people are firearms owners - this was just a deranged individual."
Law enforcement officials said members of Congress reported 42 cases of threats or violence in the first three months of 2010, nearly three times the 15 cases reported during the same period a year earlier. Nearly all dealt with the health care bill, and Giffords was among the targets.
A 19-year-old volunteer at the event, Alex Villec, described how the violence unfolded.
Villec, a former staffer for the congresswoman, told The Associated Press that the man who later turned out to be the suspect arrived at the event wearing a black cap and baggy pants and asking for the congresswoman.
"I told him ... she'll be more than happy to talk to you as your turn comes," Villec said. The man walked away, but returned just minutes later and burst through a table separating Villec and Giffords from the public. Villec said he saw him raise an arm, and then he heard gunfire.
The gunman fired at Giffords and her district director and started shooting indiscriminately at staffers and others standing in line to talk to the congresswoman, said Mark Kimball, a communications staffer for Giffords.
"He was not more than three or four feet from the congresswoman and the district director," he said, describing the scene as "just complete chaos, people screaming, crying."
The shooting cast a pall over the Capitol as politicians of all stripes denounced the attack as a horrific. Capitol police asked members of Congress to be more vigilant about security in the wake of the shooting. Obama dispatched his FBI chief to Arizona.
Giffords, known as "Gabby," tweeted shortly before the shooting, describing her "Congress on Your Corner" event: "My 1st Congress on Your Corner starts now. Please stop by to let me know what is on your mind or tweet me later."
"It's not surprising that today Gabby was doing what she always does, listening to the hopes and concerns of her neighbors," Obama said. "That is the essence of what our democracy is about. That is why this is more than a tragedy for those involved. It is a tragedy for Arizona and a tragedy for our entire country."
Doctors were optimistic about Giffords surviving as she was responding to commands from doctors. "With guarded optimism, I hope she will survive, but this is a very devastating wound," said Dr. Richard Carmona, the former surgeon general who lives in Tucson.
Giffords spokesman C.J. Karamargin said besides the aide Zimmerman, who was killed, two other Giffords staffers were shot but expected to survive. Zimmerman was a former social worker who served as Giffords' director of community outreach. Giffords had worked with the judge in the past to line up funding to build a new courthouse in Yuma, and Obama hailed him for his nearly 40 years of service.
Greg Segalini, an uncle of Christina, the 9-year-old victim, told the Arizona Republic that a neighbor was going to the event and invited her along because she had just been elected to the student council and was interested in government.
Christina, who was born on Sept. 11, 2001, was involved in many activities, from ballet to baseball. She had just received her first Holy Communion at St. Odilia's Catholic Church on in Tucson, Catholic Diocese of Tucson officials told The Arizona Daily Star.
In the evening, more than 100 people attended a candlelight vigil outside Giffords' headquarters, where authorities investigated a suspicious package that turned out to be non-explosive.
The suspect Loughner was described by a former classmate as a pot-smoking loner, and the Army said he tried to enlist in December 2008 but was rejected for reasons not disclosed.
Federal law enforcement officials were poring over versions of a MySpace page that included a mysterious "Goodbye friends" message published hours before the shooting and exhorted his friends to "Please don't be mad at me."
In one of several Youtube videos, which featured text against a dark background, Loughner described inventing a new U.S. currency and complained about the illiteracy rate among people living in Giffords' congressional district in Arizona.
"I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People," Loughner wrote. "Nearly all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen (sic)."
In Loughner's middle-class neighborhood - about a five-minute drive from the scene - sheriff's deputies had much of the street blocked off. The neighborhood sits just off a bustling Tucson street and is lined with desert landscaping and palm trees.
Neighbors said Loughner lived with his parents and kept to himself. He was often seen walking his dog, almost always wearing a hooded sweat shirt and listening to his iPod.
Loughner's MySpace profile indicates he attended and graduated from school in Tucson and had taken college classes. He did not say if he was employed.
"We're getting out of here. We are freaked out," 33-year-old David Cleveland, who lives a few doors down from Loughner's house, told The Associated Press.
Cleveland said he was taking his wife and children, ages 5 and 7, to her parent's home when they heard about the shooting.
"When we heard about it, we just got sick to our stomachs," Cleveland said. "We just wanted to hold our kids tight."
High school classmate Grant Wiens, 22, said Loughner seemed to be "floating through life" and "doing his own thing."
"Sometimes religion was brought up or drugs. He smoked pot, I don't know how regularly. And he wasn't too keen on religion, from what I could tell," Wiens said.
Lynda Sorenson said she took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College's Northwest campus and told the Arizona Daily Star he was "obviously very disturbed." "He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts," she said.
In October 2007, Loughner was cited in Pima County for possession of drug paraphernalia, which was dismissed after he completed a diversion program, according to online records.
"He has kind of a troubled past, I can tell you that," Dupnik said.
Giffords was first elected to Congress amid a wave of Democratic victories in the 2006 election, and has been mentioned as a possible Senate candidate in 2012 and a gubernatorial prospect in 2014.
She is married to astronaut Mark E. Kelly, who has piloted space shuttles Endeavour and Discovery. The two met in China in 2003 while they were serving on a committee there, and were married in January 2007. Sen. Bill Nelson, chairman of the Senate Commerce Space and Science Subcommittee, said Kelly is training to be the next commander of the space shuttle mission slated for April. His brother is currently serving aboard the International Space Station, Nelson said.
Giffords is known in her southern Arizona district for her numerous public outreach meetings, which she acknowledged in an October interview with The Associated Press can sometimes be challenging.
"You know, the crazies on all sides, the people who come out, the planet earth people," she said with a following an appearance with Adm. Mike Mullen in which the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was peppered with bizarre questions from an audience member. "I'm glad this just doesn't happen to me."
Now here are two blog reactions. This is the writing and analysis level you should be aiming for.
By Howard Fineman, senior political editor
WASHINGTON -- We don't yet know the extent to which the Tucson murders were about politics per se, though the alleged killer apparently did deliberately target a member of Congress. But violent national tragedies such as this one can profoundly affect the temper of the times--and the fate of the presidents who are in office when they happen.
The most vivid and obvious occurred almost a decade ago, when Al Qaeda attacked on September 11, 2001. President George W. Bush, his presidency until that point largely adrift, spoke amid the rubble of the World Trade Center four days later.
He made many mistakes thereafter. We are living with the consequences of them. But it is hard not to conclude that his bullhorn moment in New York--capturing Bush at his ardent best--all but insured his re-election three years later.
Bill Clinton had an analogous moment. In the spring of 1995, he was being widely dismissed as a political irrelevancy. Newt Gingrich had swept into power with an anti-federal agenda that dominated Washington.
But then, on April 19 of that year, Timothy McVeigh blew up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168, including 19 children under the age of six. Horrifyingly vivid pictures of infants being carried from the rubble were broadcast worldwide.
Clinton's political resurrection began four days later. It had nothing to do with McVeigh, a former soldier who had taken a murderous turn from anti-authoritarianism to racist paranoia. The president was careful, as well he should have been, to avoid suggesting any link between his political foes and the event.
Rather, in a short but eloquent address--now regarded as a classic of modern presidential rhetoric--he recalled his own roots in nearby Arkansas, invoked God and the Bible, and called not only for justice but also for tolerance, forbearance and love.
Second blog example. This is by Gary Hart, Scholar in Residence at the University of Colorado.
Gradually, over time, political rhetoric used by politicians and the media has become more inflamatory. The degree to which violent words and phrases are considered commonplace is striking. Candidates are "targeted". An opponent is "in the crosshairs". Liberals have to be
"eliminated". Opponents are "enemies". This kind of language eminates largely from those who claim to defend American democracy against those who would destroy it, who are evil, and who want to "take away our freedoms".
Today we have seen the results of this rhetoric. Those with a megaphone, whether provided by public office or a media outlet, have responsibilities. They cannot avoid the consequences of their blatant efforts to inflame, anger, and outrage. We all know that there are unstable and potentially dangerous people among us. To repeatedly appeal to their basest instincts is to invite and welcome their predictable violence.
So long as we all tolerate this kind of irresponsible and dangerous rhetoric or, in the case of some commentators, treat it with delight, reward it, and consider it cute, so long will we place all those in public life, whom the provocateurs dislike, in the crosshairs of danger.
That this is carried out, and often rewarded, in the name of the Constitution, democratic rights and liberties, and patriotism is a mockery of all this nation claims to believe and almost all of us continue to struggle to preserve. America is better than this.
Grading: For each article and response of a minimum of 100 words, you receive 100 points. New articles will be posted every other day. Make sure that you have identified yourself clearly on the blog, so that you receive the appropriate credit. As this is on line, you won't have any difficulties completing this whether you are in class.
News Grammar update: This Friday you will receive the news grammar 3 (the last one). This, along with the previous 2, will constitute a test on Friday 21 January. I am simply taking excerpts from the 3, to which you already have the answers; so everyone should do very well. That will be your last grade of this marking period.
Joseph Gleason
ReplyDeletePeople can talk as much as they want about how political rhetoric or inflammatory actions by politicians such as Sarah Palin and how they might have played a role in these unfortunate events. Or how such a charged political climate may initiate such acts of violence, but the bottom line is that this was an atrocious act of violence performed by a very sick young man who needs help.
There has been no evidence that this man was acting on behalf of any political movement. I am sure that even some of the most adamant members of the tea party do not plan assassinations at their town hall meetings. This troubled young man was clearly paranoid and severely mentally ill. What we need to do for this young man is to forgive him and help him manage his illness. As much as we hope for the recovery of Representative Giffords we must ask for the recovery of the young man who tried to take her life.
Linh Truong
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this article the first thing that came to my mind was of course the assassinations of previous presidents. Even till now some people are not able to sort out problems and display disagreements through words, instead they are taking actions that doesn’t fix anything. Now people are living with the consequences and America is going to have to deal with these consequences. The assassination attempt of Gifford’s left her in critical condition, and also has left America in critical condition. Must we be identified as the country that uses guns to get what we want? As the sheriff said, “The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous…"
What makes this event even more disturbing is the death of bystanders such as the 9 year old child. Taking ones anger out with a loaded gun isn’t going to solve anything and I would think that by now we’ve learned this. Killing some of the other people there didn’t add anything to the cause either. Loughner’s political beliefs is probably the cause behind this attack on someone who was, according to Obama, “listening to the hopes and concerns of her neighbors," Its not just the people that were directly involved and it’s not just Giffords, its everyone in this nation that is faced with a tragedy that has left America yet another scar.
It’s said that Loughner “disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts.” and that what he’s done again, but this time he’s disrupted more than a classroom. This assassination attempt also makes me think about the shootings in colleges and the World Trade Center. Its not necessary to eliminate your opponent, because your opponent is not necessarily your enemy. Nothing is impossible to solve, and using words is a more logical way to solve a disagreement.
Civilization is an illusion, a game of pretend. The fact is that we are still animals, driven by primal instincts. In the right situation, we are all capable of the most terrible things. To imagine a world where this was not so, where every crisis did not result in new atrocities, where every newspaper is not full of war and violence. Is to imagine a world in which all humans cease to be themselves. To view a world full of peace and love is to conform people into being an empty shell a reflection of what we are today. There is no excuse that can be given for a person who reacts in a rage and causes harm to anyone around them. Although many people suffered and were harmed who are we to say that faced with the emotion this individual felt we would not react the same. When pressured and pushed long and hard enough people react in a variety of ways. People do not always think about the repercussions of their actions until it is far too late and they are in trouble. This man clearly felt overwhelmed and maybe felt that the only way to fix that was by causing others to feel the way he felt inside. It is like this world wide America is not by far the only country in which acts of rage and violence rip apart our societies.
ReplyDeleteIn America we pride ourselves on our government and how well we can function as a whole. When events such as this take place it is a stain on Americas’ track record. Even though America is not by far perfect we do try to keep the peace without having genocides amongst ourselves and having huge massacres every day. Our whole nation was in a state of shock when the news of this broke out; the fact that someone attacked innocent people along with a government official is absurd. Why cause all this trouble what had this women done to him to cause him to react in a way that lead to the death of innocent people?
The way this man used violence was over the top that sort of violence was not necessary. Words influence everything we do, think, or say. There is no reason that the issues this man faced could not have been solved with talking or a meeting of some sort. To try and take the life of someone you do not know based on their religion, beliefs, race, gender, or sexual orientation is a sincere lack of morality. To have to live the rest of his life knowing that he killed all those people and hurt so many people should be enough, unfortunately it most likely will not be. He may think what he did was justified and had good purpose. It is sad sometimes to think that we can never have peace and love and happiness, only sadness, if people would ignore the he said she said, the drama, and hating people for reasons that are better left in the wind maybe peoples’ lives would be better.
Jared Lee Laughner, as he grew up people could tell something was clearly wrong with him. The signs he showed of not having it all was tremendous. These signs he showed was not little ones where you know people don’t have it all, but they will be ok. He showed that he was losing his mind in a negative way and I don’t understand why his family or friends didn’t get him help or keep a good eye on him knowing his crazy ways. If they did they could have possibly prevented this tragedy from happening. This shows how Americans don’t pay attention to people characteristics only when something bad happens and those characteristics are brought out to the fullest and it’s to late to get the person help cause lives are taken away from people because we didn’t pay attention.
ReplyDeleteWhen the incident took place I didn’t understand how the man got off 31 bullets before being tackled. If that’s the best our security can do for our congressmen protection that’s horrible. Laughner got a chance to shoot at the congresswomen and the line of people that was their which is ridiculous. A man like this shouldn’t be walking around alone he needs special treatment and needs to be watch over ,but it took 13 people wounded 6 dead and a little 9 year old killed for us to realize this.
Shaniqua James
ReplyDeleteThe events that occurred in this article were quite surprising: the shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and the killing of Christina, a nine year old girl, and thirteen other people who were present at the meeting. The shooter, Jared Loughner, was determined to be in an unstable state of mind. I don’t understand how hundreds of people could be in one room, and stand there and allow one man who is clearly mentally unstable, to shoot a gun long enough to harm so many people. I also don’t understand how Mr. Loughner was to be permitted to purchase a firearm. I think that the government has allowed this to happen because when Loughner was arrested so many times, and when he was kicked out of school, and when they first thought he was mentally unstable, he should have been put under hospital supervision so he could get help. He should not have been allowed to roam the streets and live like he is stable enough to make his own decisions. I do not think that Loughners violent outburst was political at all. I think it was merely his psychological condition that caused his rage at that moment in time. So many peoples families have been affected by one mans actions, and the government should take action on this event o prevent any further events of this nature to occur
This incident makes me wonder about why people do the things they do. The man who attacked congresswomen Giffords was very young and they are saying he might have been mentally disturbed. The way people who know Loughner talked about him was also unsettling. They said he had a troubled past and he floated through life. I feel that anyone who does something as extreme as assassinating someone. Some people don't see the consequence of their actions or they can justify their actions. It is terrible that people do this, though it is not surprising. There is violence everywhere and political leaders as well as average people are being killed everyday. It is tragic and terrible though sadly not out of the ordinary.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the article about the shooting of 20 people including Congresswoman Gabrielle Gifford, and a 9-year old named Christina. The results of this assault were tragic and astonishing, to know that our country does not supply efficient and dependable security for the political figures we have in government. Jared Loughner, the man who injured and shot these individual, was a very disturbed man, who faced many problems throughout his life, as several of his former classmates and neighbors agree to. Not only was Loughner denied to enter into the army but he was also turned down from many other things in college because he was told to get help with his mental disorder. Because he has such a tremendous mental issue, it was easy for him to feel that he has to defend himself and take action against hopeless others. It trouble me that this disturbed man had the open opportunity to commit such a crime and was not stopped soon enough to save the lives of so many people, to whom he was harmful to. If there were people who were aware of this man’s problems, why didn’t they get help for him, and see to it that he was looked after? The issues that he faced daily had a large impact on his actions, although his attempt to assassinate Gifford was not a political problem because did not know her and didn’t have an issue with her concerns or attributions to the communication.
ReplyDeleteHow is this different from any other killing that occurs? You always hear about it when there's a shooting at a school or a college, or if there is a political relevance. The reality is that people get killed every day, this is just an excuse for people to gather together politically on either side of the issue. I would like to argue that Jared Loughner shouldn't be allowed to purchase a gun, but let's be honest, if he really wanted to commit this crime he could have obtained a gun by other means. I don't think he had a psychological condition. He knew what he was doing.
ReplyDeleteAs someone who does not agree with any political point of view, I don't view this situation as especially relevant or important in any regard. I guess what we should take from this as a country is that there are places where we need to improve our security.
It's sad that a nine year old girl died, but thousands of children die everyday, I don't think she is any more important than them because she's American.
Response to Joesph
ReplyDeleteLoughner was obviously mentally ill and disturbed. Blame cannot be cast on anyone for saying or doing anything. No one intended for this to happen though it did. It is no ones fault but actions of others did influence. If you tell a person who is unstable something they will act irrationally and dramatically. This man does need help to understand what is acceptable and what is not. This was an act of violence but Loughner did not get the idea to assassinate Gifford on his own.
Willie Jones
ReplyDeleteI agree with Joseph Gleason because people’s main focus is trying to figure out if this ill man tried to kill Gifford for political reason. Instead of realizing this man is ill and needs a lot of help from this terrible point in his life until he is able to manage his self in a good way. Obviously this man struggled with drug addictions, being disruptive to other people. But still we never took action to help this young man and it’s sounding like people not trying to help this ill man become better after almost killing our congresswoman. I believe that everybody deserves another chance to become better and we have to do a better job giving people their second chances.
Michael Radney
ReplyDeleteThe Arizona shooting is simply heartbreaking. A psychotic man coming in to a town hall meeting and shooting up the place, but sadly this type of horror is not uncommon. It seems to me that this type of violence is happening more and more. It seems that the cycle is just repeating itself; a troubled person with mental issues that everyone said was “odd” or “weird” and who has a fierce problem with someone in a position of power. After a certain point that person just snaps and decides to take matters in to their own hands. The thing that gets me about situations like this is what comes out from the wood work after these events. The news always gets reports from anonymous people that knew the suspect and they say how the killer was “a little bit off” or had a bad upbringing. These anonymous people make me cringe because they see a person who is borderline crazy or may just have some mental problem and do nothing. I was raise not to be scared if I see someone who looks like they are going to hurt them self or others, I would do my best to get them some immediate help.
Arizona has become a major political warzone since the passing of Immigrant laws. The metaphor that Giffords’ seat had “crosshairs” on it was merely the threat. This assault on Giffords is possibly the first shots fired in a very physical political war between Democrats and Republicans. Whatever the cause, one could suggest that with the entire Tea Party movement, extreme hatred toward Democrats is only reminiscent of hatred back in the 1800s with the civil war. Although the United States believes that this attack was in no way, shape or form as a political attack, all the factors that have led up to this point seems to make sense toward a political attack. The last democratic seat in Arizona was given to a Democrat; many of those that live in Arizona have strong Republican views. One can believe that the Tea Party has gotten to a point that is way too severe, and this is just too much; lives are lost and futures are destroyed. This attack on Giffords only shows that Political Parties are now beginning to become out of control.
ReplyDeleteResponse to Medina Abdi
ReplyDeleteI agree with Medina, I think this kid probably had some mental issues. The problem is, tons of people have mental issues, theres no way of knowing what anyone is capable of or interested in. I wonder why he wasn't able to join the army though, that does raise some flags. It's just so sad that these people slip off the radar and that these horrible things happen.
Response to Michael Radney
ReplyDeleteI agree that this kind of thing keeps happening, it feels like its more common that it ever was before. The thing is, how do you decide who is a danger? There are plenty of people I have encountered in my life that are loners, that seem to be slightly off. I don't know how you figure out if they are a threat to society or not. Just because they fit the stereotype, doesn't mean it's correct to assume they have dangerous tendencies. Half the time, these shootings are done by people nobody even suspected.
Its astonishing how violece seems to be the only solution to peoples own personal issues, when one thing sets them off and they open gun fire on an event killing so many innocent people.Someone should have definately gave this person assistance when they realized that he had signs of mental illness when he was younger, in turn this could have been prevented. Instead he was feared and ignored.It is not only the death of a congress women and several poeple but the loss of a 9 year old child who out of everyone did not have to die this young, this day or this way. Beacuse there is no current eveidence nothing can be said about whether this mans actions were connected to a political event. Therefore there is no one truely to blame, the man just needs help from now on. Maybe in the future programs or people could be dedicated to helping those who shows signs of mental illness.
ReplyDeletea seemingly not uncommon event in our modern world, i personally was not suprised this happened. It sounds grim yet, it almost seems in the recent years of our recesion our nation has had a steady flow of violence and terror. anxiety and stress most likeyl hold a major effect in this. I completly agree with mike radney in his statement that, "anonymous people make me cringe because they see a person who is borderline crazy or may just have some mental problem and do nothing", if people see and are surrounded by a problem why not take a simple action to ask to give assistance or console, or mediate a problem. Lihn is also very correct in her idea that america has to deal with there problems as a whole, we are one nation, we are one people, we need to stand up and be there for each other in hard times. And now due to the lack of that, we have people breaking down and going haywire.
ReplyDeleteAfter hearing about this incident, I realized that I actually knew the step daughter of the congresswoman. Although this event was tragic, it made it a lot more personal, and I feel so horribly for my friend. Of course, it is abosolutely insane that someone could just shoot so many people, even if he had mental problems. Yes, many people think this was an act of political aggression, and it was probably amplified because a congress woman was involved, but if this happened in any normal situation, would the media have made such a huge deal of it? I think it is important to bring attention to any act of violence, as it is not okay, but I also feel like these acts of violence are far too common, and every single one should be all over the news, not just the ones involving important people. Who knows what Jared Loughner was thinking at this time, but it was a horrible event that really made me realize what a small and violent world this is.
ReplyDeleteUrrr.
ReplyDeleteUhm like really? Theres like, this guy and hes all like, shooting people and stuff and im all like are you seriously right now? This guy is totally mean. He killed like, a 9 year old girl and then shot more people with his gun and thats just illegal okay? I don't know who this lady is but she has a really nice style and i think that fashion sense is a good way to sense someone's character.
I think this whole situation is majorly horrible. This guy is a total jerk and like a terrorist and stuff and we don't like, like terrorists okay? His family should have totally managed him. I mean like, my parents try to like, control me and stuff (which is stupid) but they should of been like, hey, no terrorism past 9 ok? Even though i dont listen to my parents when they say stuff like that they should have atleast tried.
Every teenager has had to have "the talk" with their parents and when i say "the talk" i mean the anti terrorism talk. Every parent's worst nightmare is to wake up with a bundle of C4 strapped to their chest signed love you son and this fuels the intiative to start "the talk". If they didn't have the talk (because the talk solves all terrorism problems) then that is like, totally their fault. They should have noticed that he was terrorizing.
Duh.
After reading the article it caused me to reflect on today's society and the methods people use to solve their problems. It is becoming more and more common for people to resort to violence as a way of dealing with their issues. Although some say Loughner’s actions were fueled by his feelings towards Giffords, I feel as though Loughner actions were due to his mental instability. No matter what his political views were no normal person would shoot innocent people as a result of their political views. Even those that knew Loughner would agree that he was a little off.
ReplyDeleteAlso the use of guns and fire arms in campaigning shouldn’t be allowed. Example being what happened with Giffords, even if the guy was somewhat mentally unstable. For instance, Kelly shouldn’t have had supporters shooting rifles as a campaign to get Gifford out of office especially with the history of people damaging her office etc. I think the people of Arizona are taking politics to a whole new level and there needs to be some order restored immediately.
Linh T.
ReplyDeleteResponse to Medina
I agree, things like this happen a lot, and it’s not surprising at all. People always have their disagreements and occasionally they use ways that are unlawful and unrighteous to express their disagreements and ideas. Or it’s their past and personal life that causes them to put innocent people in difficult situations, and often more than one person, but a whole community. What’s kind of astonishing is that we still have problems with public security, and this man who needs serious help is not being helped.It took way to long to stop the attack, and it's taken way to long for people to realize that this man need real help. We’ve established the fact that these things are ordinary so we might as well fix what we already know before it gets even worst.
Molly Howe:
ReplyDeleteI honestly can't say that this article is suprising, as sad as that may sound. I don't think Jared Loughner attacked for political rehtoric, he is a disturbed young man, and his symptoms were ignored so he lashed out. The whole killing was sure, sad but it is like any other killing, political or not. The people who are worried about the fact that Loughner was able to buy a gun isn't suprising either, yes the government security should tighten so that that is less likely to happened again but he could have had an older man/woman buy the gun for him anyway. The fact is that the school should have noticed the boy's behavior and done something before it escalted to murder. If anything can be learned from this event is that government sercurties should be stronger and school staff should be more alert of their students.
Joseph Gleason
ReplyDeleteResponse to Mike Rad.
Instead of using this killing to blame various politicians for their rhetoric, I must agree with Mike. We must use this incident to fuel a discussion about how we treat and deal with the mentally ill in our society. Many times people who need the help of doctors wind up in jail or homeless. Many of the homeless people in this country suffer from some sort of mental illness. Instead of simply imprisoning and ignoring people who have such problems is not a solution. By creating an initiative to treat prisoners with severe mental illness in corrections facilities and as outpatients. This could allow many people to live normal lives who otherwise would have been in and out of prison.
We already have the tools for such actions. Police already have the authority to make mental health arrests
I have to agree with Joe's response, however, many people are mentally ill. People ALWAYS have intentions. There is always a reason for what people do, whether or not its a trip to the store or killing somebody. These metaphors don't really make sense, but I'm trying to make a point. I will admit that I'm insane, but what Loughner did was out of a lack of common sense. We couldn't do anything to prevent it and all the therapy in the world won't help. I agree with Meredith that this stuff happens. This next point may seem from an ignorant standpoint, but let's be honest. People get shot every day. Caucasians get shot and we're in an uproar; black people get shot and nobody cares unless they did it. Loughner was just another crazy guy who shot somebody. I don't side with this guy, but what he did occurs naturally in American society. This time it just happened to be a Politician, a judge, a 9 year old that nobdy will care about in a few years, and other civilians. Let's get to the point: we can acknowledge that Giffords was shot, but as Americans we don't give a damn about who else was killed and their lives.
ReplyDeleteResponse to Justin
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you, after reading the article I reflected on many of the same things. The fact that so many people in today’s society is resorting to killing and violence as a common way to solve their problems is ridiculous. America definitely needs to shape up and deal with the problems facing our society so that issues such as this don’t continue to happen. First the Virginia Tech issue now this, we need to take immediate action. Also the anonymous people need to stop lurking in the shadows watching people slowly go crazy and do something to help the problem instead of waiting around ‘til something happens and then get on the ten o’clock news and talk about how crazy the person was.
Linh T
ReplyDeleteResponse to Thomiqua
It seems like in today’s world, talking and verbal communication is becoming more difficult than it really is. I agree that people are resorting to violence to say what they refuse to say with words. This man was obviously upset with what was going on in his life and not necessarily political issues either. He probably used this event to show the world his calling for help. Some of his action may have been because of Gliffords but I agree that there’s more to it than his political beliefs. When something like this happens it's possible that others are going to copy this and use it as a way to express their feelings and ideas too.
Response to Lihn
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the article I shared some of the same feelings as you. It is true that America has resorted as violence as a way to deal with issues. However what many is failing to realize is that the use of violence solves nothing. We as America will continue to falter if we don’t shape up. The death of the nine year old really upset me because she had nothing to do with it, she was just an innocent bystander and there was absolutely no need to take her life, especially at such a young age. There needs to be some serious changes because if it happens once then it’ll continue to happen.
Cady Schneible
ReplyDeleteMy first response to the article is it is just sickening that this shooting even occurred. The United States is supposed to be a free country where people have the right to express their views and state their opinions freely, not everyone will have the same ideas but as a citizen of the United Sates it is expected that people respect the views and challenge them in the right manner. It is extremely disturbing that people do not respect people’s personal opinions to the point where they should shoot a congresswoman and many other innocent people. Like every other politician, Congresswoman Giffords had platforms and took a side, which is part of the business of politics. She did not deserved to be shot in the head or have her seminar disturbed in such a violent way. In this day and age things like this should not be happening.
It amazes me that it is even a possibility that all of this could happen over a health care bill. I truly hope that is not the case. I have a lot of respect and admiration for Gillford b/c of the way she has dealt with the turmoil and all the harassment prior. On the other hand I think Sarah Pallin is really a disgrace for women politicians, the way she handles herself and voices her opinions. She seems so immature. I also never knew there was so much going on in Arizona. The sub made a valid assumption in pointing out the irony of the little girls’ death. She spoke about how the children born on 9/11/2001 symbolized hope and she died so young and full of hope. I think that’s the part that saddened me the most. The article also left me with a lot of curiosity about the boy who was responsible like…what was his reason? I found it interesting that they said he was such a quiet and reserved person but he set out to make such a big statement. But it also annoyed me the way they kept referring to the way he used pot. I mean it was clear that something was mentally wrong with him but I thought the continuous comments about him smoking pot were a little irrelevant.
ReplyDelete-Nautica Lawrence
I find it surprising that things like this are still happening. Although you can never predict the future, if the shooter was as disturbed as everyone says, why weren't actions taken to prevent him from causing harm? You would think after incidents like Columbine, if you recognized that someone was disturbed and possibly violent, you would do something about it. I agree with Thomiqua about the fact that Americans are violent and are becoming more violent everyday. Everything in the media suggests that the only way to make a memorable and widespread impact is to do some form of damage. Personally I believe that we are on the decline into violence as more and more people stop trying to use their grown-up words and decide to just start throwing tantrums.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteI cannot say that the shooting and murders were directly rooted in politics, but Loughner (the shooter in this incident) did seem to most obsessed with the injustice he felt Congresswoman Gifford posed on her district. I can’t say that this assassination attempt was directly fostered by a simple hatred of anyone with different views. But can say that I believe Loughner thought what he did was the just thing to do. The case we have here is that of a young man seemingly rejected by all senses of social settings, rejected by the military, and kicked out of school with recommendations to seek mental evaluation and counseling. Others described Loughner as a loner, a drug abuser; he had a criminal record for use and possession of illegal drug paraphernalia. If he truly was mentally unstable then he most likely was easily influenced and when politicians use terms like “the enemy” and “must be eliminated” in the place of “the opponent” and “over run” its almost natural to assume there will be some who take those words at face value and quite literally posing a threat to us all.
ReplyDeleteNo one will truly know and or understand why the shooter ( jared lee ) did what he did , though police said he deliberately targeted a certain member of congress , Gabrielle Clifford. Violent acts such as this seem to have an effect on the nation even if not personal ; and because of that causes the nation to stress and leads into presidential stress. Back in 2001when both towers were targeted and bomb president bush tried to “ help “ the situation but in honesty only set it aside , he made a lot of mistakes that many of which we live through today . knowing the past and what has been done when crimes are acted opon , after people are going to look for presidential support and help , but also will judge on according to how its done and handled and whats happened in the past
ReplyDeleteResponse to Marina;
ReplyDeleteHave you ever stopped to think that maybe the state of the economy is why no one tried to help Loughner? Maybe his Family wanted to but the care he required was far too expensive. Mentally disturbed people especially those with substance abuse issues are often combative and at times violent. If it had gotten to a point where Loughner’s family was truly afraid of him or what he might do they may have separated themselves from him. Not saying that’s the solution but loneliness may have been a factor in his mental break and the start of this rampage. Because we can all see that this murder was premeditated.
This comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteMichael Radney’s respond to williejones168
ReplyDeleteI agree with Willie with the fact that Jared Lee Laughner did need some serious medical attention for his mental health and that we all wish that someone in his life could have helped him. The dismal thing is that sometimes a person’s family is not in the picture and/or they might have little to no friends. All we can do is if you see someone who looks like they are going to hurt them self or others, we should do are best to get them some immediate help. Also the reason why Laughner did not get tackled after he shot of 31 bullets is not because of “bad” security, sadly he came to a town hall meeting where anyone in the community is able to come and voice their opinion in an open relaxed way. No one could have predicted what he was planning to do.
After reading the article, i was surprised that it blown up the way it was. Yet at the same time i felt sincere heart ache for the people who lost their love ones. It's scary to know that the incident happen in the broad daylight, even though crime or shooting shouldn't be accepted at any time, but being that it was in the early day was shocking. Also i can't seem to come to understand why their wasn't tight security, checking every individual to see if they were carrying any weapons. If this man is mentally ill why was he even able to carry a gun at any time? Then again all i can think about how Jared Lee Loughner parents must feel. I mean just think about it, they were the ones who brought this young man into this world, and they probably feel as if they are responsible for his reactions. I couldn't possibly even being to think how devastated they must feel, and among that ashamed.
ReplyDeleteBefore reading this blog i honestly didn't care too much about what had happened and i still don't. Im not saying that what happened isn't tragic and that it doesn't mean anything but it doesn't directly affect me. I do think it was wrong for people to get injured and lose their lives over senseless violence so in that respect i definitely disagree with the decisions of the shooter. However, i don't even know who the politician is that got shot. Although i probably should, i don't follow politics and i have no idea what the reporters are talking about. All i know is that many innocent people lost their lives which is definitely not okay. Im not sure what the congresswoman's stance was on politics (and i really don't care) but i don't think she should have been shot because of it. I believe that people have the rite to believe and fight for what they want as long as it doesn't get anyone hurt. Also, the fact that the shooter was mentally ill doesn't exempt him from his actions. Yes, not everyone has all their screws in the right place but if people were aware of his mental issues they should've taken better care of him. But the truth is violence happens everyday, especially when it comes to pressing issues in politics, and if it wasn't him someone else would have done it sooner or later. I'm not making excuses for people to commit crimes, but it's just reality. It's sad that a young girl only got to live to the age of nine and it's sad that in a way we can just look at a situation like this and say, "well, it happens." but it's the truth, it happens. Truthfully when it comes to us as a country, i really don't believe there is anything we can do to stop things like this because no matter what people will feel how they feel and take actions to let everyone know. In a democracy where everyone is allowed to have their own opinion there will always be someone who disagrees with something and we can't change that. Violence is never the answer and there are some people in this world that are just unaware of that. I mean i honestly have no idea what's going on with this story, but i don't think people should have been hurt.
ReplyDeleteHannah Snell-Larch
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this article I felt bad for the state that our country is in. I do not understand how someone would think that using violence is the way to get a point across. It disturbs me how Jared Lee Lounghner could go into a public place and just start shooting, not thinking about the people he would hurt just doing it because he wanted to. It surprised me how the people reacted to Lounghner’s ambush. When I hear about situations like this one I always wonder what I would do, if I would only think about myself or think about the other people as well. The way the people reacted, stopping Lounghner before he could reload his gun shows us that our country does have good people, we usually only hear about the bad ones.
The death of Gabrielle Giffords is a great tragedy. The terrible actions of one mad individual have had devastating effects and go against exactly what the United States and the American people stand for. The fact that a woman and other innocent people were harmed because of what they stood and believed for especially in the interest of helping the country as whole is a terrible crime. The hate and fear that opponents and criticizers create as a method to gain support for their own agendas can have a terrible effect even if there was no true harm intended. Giffords was even aware of this and commented on the bullying tactics of those such as the infamous Sarah Palin. It’s unfortunate that families as well as the American people have to deal with results of actions set forth by a crazy killer.
ReplyDeleteResponse to Morghann:
ReplyDeleteOne thing you brought up that i didn't think of was the security. I completely agree with that. Why wasn't everyone checked?? Why was a mentally ill man able to carry a firearm and not be in a hospital somewhere?? But the whole "broad daylight" thing really isn't the issue. Worse things have happened during the day and it wouldn't make it any better if this would have happened at night because crazy stuff happens all the time. I do agree that it is a scary thing though. As for the shooters parents, i don't believe they should feel responsible, unless they were his primary caretakers. I mean honestly the shooter is responsible, illness or no illness, and whoever was in charge of him is equally responsible i guess. It just sucks.
To Jasmine:
ReplyDeleteYour blunt, and honest truth is very appealing. I also agree, i too wasn't to engaged with the story, i mean yes we don't want people to die, but it does happen. I mean in a world of sin and wrong doings, wouldn't you rather be in a better placed? Its so funny how often people complain about life, but then when some one that was very close to you goes away, you whole train of thought changes about the aspects of life. Like i said before i truly don't understand why this story was blown up the way it was, but i suppose its because they Gabrielle Giffords was a congresswomen, but someone dies every day, every minute every hour, and sometimes no one knows about it. Maybe that was the whole point of the story that death is real, and shouldn't be taken away by another individual out of spite. But i do disagree with the fact that sense Jared Lee Loughner is mentally ill that he shall be prosecute. People can't help the fact they are born dysfunctional... i mean hey. It could be your child.
Response to Article:
ReplyDeleteA man who is mentally unstable killed six people and left thirteen others wounded with gunshot wounds. Within those thirteen people Gabrielle Gifford’s, a congresswoman was also shot and left in critical condition. There was also a nine-year-old girl who was killed. I found it amazing that this young girl was born on 9-11, and then she died nine years later. Her life started as a tragedy and ended in a tragedy. Anybody is able to have a gun in his or her possession. There are no restrictions at all. I believe that this even could have been easily prevented if the government took armed possessions seriously because through the pass years we have been troubled with many events that have caused deaths and injuries due to guns. This should have been got taken care of.
-Shana Harris
To Morghann
ReplyDeleteI agree with you about how sad this incident was, and that Lounghner should not have been able to buy a gun. As far as security goes, this was an event where there was not tight security. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was doing something to get in touch with the people she was representing, it was not a big event meaning no one probably thought security was needed. It was also at a grocery store, they can not search everyone in a public place so widely used. I agree that it was horrible and yes there are ways that it could have been avoided.
Dare I say it but it seems as to killing is a new trend just like a bad tan from jersey. The newest terriost if you want to call him is a young mislead unemployed community college student that lives in the basement of his parent’s house that has mastered American Assassination on is PS2. As I read this article I felt like I was reading a movie script of some type of movie that no one will watch. Dissecting this article I see that maybe he thought in his mind by killing this woman and her followers would make the world just a better place, reading his background it seems that rejection wasn’t anything shy to him. Neighbors say the only time they have seen him is when working the dog while listening to his iPod sure nothing is wrong with that but that’s the only time they see him that is weird and classmates from high school and college says that he was a pot head that kept to himself with several outbursts in class. So to some up my blabbers this is the result when abused or bullied kids grow up they just go off and kill little 9 year olds.
ReplyDeleteJoseph,
ReplyDeleteI see where you are coming from but an illness does not give anyone the right to kill in that case every person in prison would have pleaded insanity. Even though he didn’t have a legitimate reason for this act of violence he performed he also should not be forgiven and forgotten that easy because he was oppressed as a child. Not saying he doesn’t probably have mental problems that probably help him perform this act but that have counseling and medicine that is given in prison that we pay our taxes for. I am sure that he did not mean for this to be blown up to a huge assassination type thing and his bullet maybe only had one name on it but that doesn’t let him off he had a premeditated mind of what he was going to do. Right is right and wrong is wrong!
For Medina:
ReplyDeleteI also thought about why someone would do something like this when I read the article. Another thing I thought about is why someone didn't do something when it was happening. Of course in a situation like this, what could someone do without being harmed. The comments of the boy's classmates are not surprising, it always seems as if the "floaters" are more likely to commit a crime like this than an outgoing student.
For Joseph:
I think that people always commit a premeditated crime like this one with a reason, even a madman has a reason to murder someone even if the reason doesn't seem relevant or make sense to anyone else. I agree with Stephine that the boy should not be forgiven that easily because he is mentally unstable but in a court of law the fact that he has mentally ill should be noted, but should not excuse his actions.
This article made me think that all humans are the same no matter what background they come from. We all react the same way to things we can’t handle or have no control over. Instead of words, people take violent action against innocent people. When America is supposed to be the best country ever and set a good example for other countries, we can’t even control a person who goes on a rampage because he/she is upset. Now not only do we have to deal with the deaths and shooter, but also the judgment of our power from other countries. Even though we have the best politic actions than any other country, the politics are what’s causing anger and uncivilized manner.
ReplyDeleteSometimes you can catch these “uncivilized” signs in a single person early. In Jared Lee Laughner’s case, his signs showed up early when he was younger, where people saw he was crazy and losing his mind. As his life continued to go downhill, his “craziness” got more negative. His family and friends weren’t a big help either, didn’t help him out or nothing with his problems. What he did, I’m sure he had his reasons but those reasons weren’t good or logical enough to kill 6 people, wound 13 including a congresswoman, and a little innocent 9-year-old girl.
Going back to our government, specifically security wise, my question is: how come this noticeably crazy man kills and wound all these people before security tackles him down? That’s just another embarrassment for our country. I hope the government security has a better technique in preventing something like this again.
Response to Malka:
ReplyDeleteYour so right that this whole story is completely "amplified" because of who it involved however it is very tragic and maybe this example of a deranged man will set people to pay more constant attention to their surrounding citizens. Its almost better that this was made so public and so important, because it is, and its motivation.
Response to Sage:
ReplyDeleteIts so true that America is always like wow look at us we are so awesome we can handle anything, ye they couldn't prevent a single guy from killing like 20 people. Its kind of crazy to think that so many peoples lives were altered in such a horrible way, and all because of one man.
Response to Medina Abdi's comment:
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with your comment towards the incident that happened to Congress woman Giffords. This is not out of the ordinary. Its a shame that a crime like this is normal i our society and that it continuously happens on a daily basis. Higher officials are not the only people who are the victims of these crimes, anybody essentially can become victim to this. And the victimizing is done sometimes for no apparent reason. To me, this is the bad part.
Response to Lihn
ReplyDeleteI strongly agree with what you said because, America has come to be a place of violence, unfortunately. The bystanders who were injured or either murdered was tragic and saddening. Loughner is in fact a very disturbed man, who indeed needs help. The problems and issues that we all face daily have effects on our actions and because we all are individuals we handle these situations differently. The shooting and killing of these people and the critical condition that Gifford is in, is a perfect example of how a mentally unstable man can take advantage and destroy the lives of others.
Response to Hannah Snell-Larch's comment:
ReplyDeleteYour comment is very understandable because the good people normally are not noticed when a bad situation happens. My only thing about the people who were at the conference is that I feel the people definitely out numbered just Loughner. I feel they should have stopped him before he had the chance to hurt all those people in the first place. Also, I have also wondered how I would react in a situation like this. I STILL don't know, but I do know that if I have to do something that could possibly take my life in order to save other peoples, I would.
Response to Medina:
ReplyDeleteEverything you said is true, this should not be surprising to anyone. Things like this happen everyday. It is really sad that we should be used to death and hearing about the horrible atrocities that people commit everyday. No one really knows the reason this man did what he did but there really is not a reason, some are blaming Sarah Palin for putting a "hit list" on her website, but sometimes people will do things there own way.
I agree with Michael Radney’s response that this was a horrible event but it wasn’t uncommon. People recognize these types of “odd” or “weird” people early before they probably even reach graduation. If someone could see this person as “a little bit off” then why don’t they try to help him/her? Or at least try to find someone else to help them? if that person acts so weird to the point of scaring others than you don’t have to put yourself in danger, but at least find someone who will take care of them, like a doctor or even a local police officer.
ReplyDeleteResponse to Jasmine
ReplyDeleteI like your outlook, no matter how cynical it sounds for you to admit that you do not care that is true that not everyone cares. It doesn't affect everyones life. My life will be the same tomorrow as it is today even thought that horrible stuff happened. Every time something bad happens people claim they are deeply hurt when all throughout their day they are living a normal life. In all actuality our country has become desensitized to death and dying. I wanted to tell you congrats on saying what pretty much everyone else felt.
Willie Jones III
ReplyDeleteI agree with Shaniqua James so many people knew that Jared Loughner was a unstable young man clearly. People allowed him to go to a political room by himself. Who and their right minds would let a disturbed man roam by himself especially involving congressmen and woman. I believe that we can blame ourselves for letting this happen because all the right signs occurred for us to get this man some help. We need to get better as a nation to protect the people around us and to protect the unstable minds around us. So our world can become a better place.
Response to Jasmine
ReplyDeleteEverything you said in your response is what I believe. My mother tried asking me if I had known about the Congresswoman, and sadly I said no because I really had no idea what she was talking about. She briefly told me about the situation but I honestly didn't care too much because I have no idea who this woman is or what she believes in as a politician. The attempt assassination of Gifford is sad and I feel that Lounghner should be punished and it's unfortunate that he hadn't received the help he needs.
This is just another story of a shooting somewhere in the USA by a mentally disturbed misfit. These things come to be a cliche, eventually, which is horrible. We always are reminded that life is precious, by such events as the homosexual teenager that killed himself and the columbine shootings several years back. I hate that us as citizens have become desensitized to events such as this. People take a look at yahoo news in the morning before work and they see this story, but most of them just say something like "oh my, that's horrible. better get to work soon". No one does anything these days.
ReplyDeletewhy dont people give these mentally disturbed citizens the attention they need? I do not know who to blame, but someone needs to be fired somewhere.
I think the attempted assassination on Gabrielle Giffords was a tragedy not only for the victims and their families but also for America as a country. Why hasn’t our country matured enough to realize that violence is not the answer? For a country that claims to be so proud of our democracy, we spend a lot of time fighting its results. The most important part of democracy is the power of the vote and the acceptance of the results. If we don’t have that, what part of democracy is left? It’s time politicians come together for the greater good of the country, not just for their political party or personal gain. Politicians shouldn’t be referring to their opponents as enemies. How can we not expect violence when those potentially running this country encourage it? Giffords opponent Jesse Kelly claims he sees no connection between his fundraiser against Giffords, where he encouraged supporters to shoot loaded rifles, and the attempted assassination. Why is it that we are so shocked by violent responses when some politicians are practically openly supporting them? In this day and age America should be able to leave the violence out of politics, and that means a change in attitude from everyone.
ReplyDeleteI also agree that people are not civilized (bonita and angie)
ReplyDeleteI think that some people are just sick, and they are past help. does this mean they're primitive and killers, though? something in their childhood or upbringing made them the way they are. it happens in nature too. there is rejection in a litter because of size and strength and whatnot. it comes down to survival of the fittest, and some people are the rejects of the litter. These are the people who receive no love and turn to mass killings in public places.
oh and whoever said that the congresswoman is dead is wrong, the article clearly states that she is in critical condition but the outlook is optimistic. so.. um.
ReplyDeleteSage,
ReplyDeleteYou should really get your facts right before you post because Rep. Giffords is alive and doctors say she has a 101% chance of survival. You need not to blame fmr. Gov Sarah Palin for her opinion becuse she has the right to say what ever she wants. The only thing i can say is she is a stupid women and doesn't make good choices. This shows us that Americans must check themselves before they start going on a rage.
SAGE,
ReplyDeleteTHE LADY IS NOT DEAD SHE IS IN CRITICAL CONDITION. now you gave her bad luck
In response to Shaniqua:
ReplyDeleteI don’t think the people in the room are to blame for the tragedy. When someone pulls a gun out and starts shooting, it’s usually hard to know what’s going on. When someone is attempting to assassinate a political figure, they don’t announce it first, so it comes as a complete surprise. Most people either don’t have any idea what’s happening or panic and freeze. Unless you are specially trained, people’s brains aren’t made to go into hero mode when something like that happens. I agree that he shouldn’t have been allowed to own a gun because he was clearly mentally unstable. However it is impossible to keep all mentally disturbed people off the streets and cared for, it won’t ever happen. It was a tragedy, but no one is to blame but the shooter himself.
I think we have reached a consensus because the comments are becoming redundant (no offense to anyone.) Yes violence has become a commonality in America. Yes actions should have been taken early when given the signs of the mental illness of Loughner. Yes security should improve because they seem like they didn’t do their job. Yes innocent people die everyday. Yes it is a primarily a political issue. The fact of the matter is none of that matters. What matters is what are we going to do to improve our situation? We can talk about it and debate what we think is wrong and what should have been done. But we weren’t there and the chances of us making any bit of a difference if we had been there is slim to none. We need to take action so other situations like this will not continue to occur. We as a country are to blame.
ReplyDelete-Nautica Lawrence
In response to Meredith Gaylor's post:
ReplyDeleteI agree that it was such a big deal because it included a political figure and a child. However I think he most definitely is mentally unstable. It seems that even in high school it was pretty clear he wan't alright and that only furthered as he got older. Looking at his youtube videos it's clear there was something not right with him. Someone who is denied from the army clearly has a lot of problems. He was mentally unstable and that's all there is to it. It doesn't have to do with who to blame or if he had an accomplice. He was mentally unstable and that's all there is to it.
In response to Celia, this comes back from the old mentality that if someone has a problem, they have a desire to deal with it themselves. Our scarred history is never going to be healed; we will never come to peace. This constant war within has always been a part of society, and it will never go away. What you brought up about how politicians should leave violence away, I have to disagree. This is a "popularity contest." Politicians will do anything, even have someone attempt to kill a congresswoman just to get what they want. It's harsh but it's reality.
ReplyDeleteOne of the comments that most struck me was when Bonita said,” to try and take the life of someone you do not know based on their religion, beliefs, race, gender, or sexual orientation is a sincere lack of morality.” I think America as a whole lacks morality. Someone once said if you don’t stand for something you will fall for anything. What do we stand for? I mean yes we pride ourselves in our freedom, and diversity, but where do we draw the line so that things like this do not occur. America has no unity and therefore no morals. Even the laws of our country vary from state to state which leaves to many loopholes for violence and illegal activity such as this to occur. Bonita also said “People do not always think about the repercussions of their actions until it is far too late and they are in trouble.” But it is not only the people themselves that are responsible for their actions b/c if you are mental ill, as they described him as, then you may either be in denial or truly on unable to distinguish right from wrong. Not saying that he is not responsible for his actions. Linh said, and I agree, “Nothing is impossible to solve, and using words is a more logical way to solve a disagreement.” Willie’s statement that Americans themselves ignore the obvious signs b/c they don’t pay attention until “it’s too late to get the person help b/c people’s lives are taken away,” was very true. Ending problems at their root is something that we as a people lack. People don’t stand up against wrong what’s wrong until things have gotten out of hand and that is why we experience such turmoil today. Many of my classmates promote early action as far back as when Laughner was in school. And I agree but students are too busy making fun of students b/c they are unordinary and most teachers could care less about their students personal lives. So who was there to reach out to him?
ReplyDeleteTo Meredith: I somewhat agree with what you said but it is politics so of course it’s going to get more coverage. But it did point out things we need to work on such as security and gun laws. I was also curious about why he was unable to join the military. Like… I wonder if it played a role in the cause of the whole event.
-Nautica Lawrence
To Celia
ReplyDeleteI agree with you completely, I think it is sad that people think that resorting to violence is the only way to get what you want. When people think like that genocides happen and innocent people die, like what happened during the assassination attempt on Giffords. As far as Jesse Kelly's fundraiser against Giffords, I think he should feel partly responsible as well as Sarah Palin. By putting crosshairs over the states where Palin felt the political figures needed to be stopped is utterly ridiculous. She is promoting the use of guns to stop political figures you disagree with. I think politicians need to make changes to make our country a safer country.
Response to Nautica
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you on everything that you have stated. Sarah Palin has no use for our government at all. Her opinions and comments are always irrelevant and I personally don’t know why people even take the time out to listen to the things that I have to say. I also found it very stupid that they kept saying that him smoking pot was a reason why he may have committed this crime. This man was mentally unstable and him smoking pot has nothing to do with him killing all these innocent people. The young girl who died was a sad and shocking story. I thought everything that occurred that day was crazy!
-Shana Harris
Domo,
ReplyDeleteI agree with your blog but not with your typing skills. You had very good arguments and i agree with everything that you said,
I like the point Shana made about Government policy and the seriousness that is weapons possession. I understand that it’s a right of US citizens to carry licensed arms but I think it should a bit more difficult to get them. Guns shouldn’t just be handed out to anyone tests on mental stability should be given before firearms can be issued out. Bullets and guns should cost a lot more that way people would be so much less free in using them. If there were a million dollar charge on every bullet people wouldn’t be able to afford to go on rampages.
ReplyDeletein response to medina abdi
ReplyDeletei agree with you when you said that what Loughner was very ill and probably didn't come up with by himself but i disagree to believe that he didn't know what he was doing and or knows right from wrong. yes facts has shown that indeed Loughner has a history of mental issues and faced some challenges but why would he purchase a gun ? why would he leave those notes behind ? why even show up to that event knowing you dont like or support congress women clifford . he should seek mental help ASAP but also be punished for his actions.
In Response to Vincent:
ReplyDeleteI definitely agree with the fact that politics is a popularity contest. We do have a long history of paying to have people killed and as long as the people who are truly behind the violence can continue to get away with it, things will not change. Everyday we become more and more desensitized to violence and eventually seeing someone get shot down in the street won't be anything new. Sure it will be on the news to inform, but it won't be a shock anymore. What I would like to know is why is it always the mentally disturbed that seem to attack people? If you consider what Vincent has said and think about how much premeditation that some people put into violence, was Loughner truly disturbed or paid off to seem that way?
in response to stephanie
ReplyDeleteWORD ?!? LOL
replying to Dominique...
ReplyDeleteExcuse me Ms.Lumpkins I apologize that your upset because you do not know how to seperate your texting from your school work.
Response to Nuke
ReplyDeleteMany people who are mentally unstable always believe that everything that they do is always the right thing to do. Loughner may have thought that him killing Gifford would have changed the government and he would have got what he wanted. But things have only got worse. I do believe that these assassinations were caused because of Loughner’s hatred for Gifford and the government’s decisions. He may have thought the only way that he could get his point across was this way. The gunman has obviously been going through a lot throughout his life and everything must have boiled up and made him cause this horrible and frightening crime.
-Shana Harris
i agree with Nautica completely . people do die everyday , acts of violence are committed frequently and yet people do nothing point their fingers to who they think is wrong or not , instead of working together trying to fix the problem and prevent things like this from happening . people are always saying that there are consequences for their action well as soon as someones stops blaming and starts making moves there will be none.
ReplyDeleteSTEPHANIE SHUT UP , GOSH ' YOU ARE GOING TU GET US IN TROUBLE FOR PLAYING ON THE BLOG . -_-
ReplyDeleteTo all of the haters:
ReplyDeleteNot only is this tragedy unfortunate it is also unfortunate that students of an all American school funded by the government and run by those who have dedicated their lives to your upbringing choose to focus on another students error in their own writing instead of putting any real thought into a well constructed response to someone’s argument or position on this topic. I understand that Gabrielle Giffords has not died and will make a recovery but the truth is that this woman’s life was taken from her regardless of whether or not she has a heartbeat. From the experience of watching someone suffer from a fatal and debilitating brain injury I find it hard to argue over what I said when it is obvious that she is alive. What people should understand is that her position as a government official and as a family member has been put in critical condition. Will she be able to walk, talk or even move her eyes as result of this man?
IN Response to Celia Bostok:
ReplyDeleteI agree with celia , our country as a whole needs to learn how to become more mature, as well as more confident in the country's democracy . The idea of democracy is the power of the vote , therefore whatever the result is , it has been equally decided amongst the country in the most fair way possible. Therefore, we must learn how to be ok and or somewhat content with the overall results. At some point in our lives individually and as a whole we have to realize that violence is never the answer. When a act of violence is committed there are so many things that could happen , most turing out to be bad. Hence, this shooting attack , a nine year old girl's life was taken by someone whom she had never met before in her life, nor caused any harm with her actions or words. Innocent lives are being taken out by violence everyday , half of these cases over something that they either need to leave in the hands of the government or it is just plain nonsense . I also agree that there is not much more of democracy left in our days and time, even during these political debates and runnings the persons opponents can be refered to as enimies ,and they cans end verbal attacks at one another not realizing the perspective that they are puttoing on the people in which they want to vote for them to believe. Democracy and its people can be very contradicting at times without even knowing. Overall , if we are going to have a democracy we must believe in its foundation as well as let it do what it dose best and work things out for the better good of the people . Lastly, violence is definitely not the answer for anything.
Response to article:
ReplyDeleteIt is amazing that Giffords is still alive, despite a bullet going through her brain. Murder attempts like this, and any acts of violence disgust me. The person who committed this heinous act not only hurt a congresswoman, but also injured thirteen others and killed six people. It disgusts me that some people think the only way to get what they want is to threaten, hurt or even kill someone. This event makes me even surer of myself when I think that people should not be allowed to own guns. What good do they do?
The things that Giffords’ opponent said or implied, such as urging his supporters to help remove Giffords from office by joining him to shoot a fully loaded M-16 rifle, may have not directly led to this event that occurred, but exemplify the hate and negativity that are in our society. Although he may deny any part in the event, his actions were unprofessional, and the fact that he could have had a large role in our government scares me.
Response to Michael Radney:
ReplyDeleteI agree with Michael that one of the problems in our society is not only our negativity and hate towards others but also the fact that we act naive towards the problems that others have. All those people that commented on Loughner and problems that he had in his life most likely did nothing to get him help. There are many mentally unstable people in the world and if people acknowledge those around them and step in to get them the help they need maybe some of the violence and hate crimes that occur would dissipate. Most of the people that are involved with shooting events are said to have a “troubled past.” Sometimes this is just used as an excuse for them shooting and killing people, there are people out there that are willing to help. And there are so many people with troubled lives that don’t feel the need to hurt the innocent.
Response to Cady Schneible:
ReplyDeleteIn a country where people have many freedoms that they take for granted, it is sad that they do not understand the ability to peacefully disagree with others. I think that Cady is right in the fact that people must be educated in the proper ways of voicing their opinions, and should be taught that violence is not the answer. Although Laughner might have been unstable, or may not have agreed with Giffords political decisions, this disagreement should not have led to an attempted assassination. Loughner and others should realize that political leaders are there to represent your ideas, and by voting, or writing letters to them you can voice your opinion. Shooting, and hurting people is not the answer. Especially in the fact that what would killing Giffords have done? Someone in her office would have replaced her, most likely with the same ideas and mentality on the very issues Laughner didn’t agree with.
Although this article was portrayed as an account of the shooting, I found it to be somewhat biased. It came off as very emotionally weighted. There was no political bias, yet the author used their power as an informer to take our emotions and confuse them with our opinions. Let’s be honest. When we read about Giffords, we’re told of the plain and simple details of the incident. We learn about her political background and plans for the future. Yet when the article switches to the topic of the little girl, it gets cliché and mushy. “Christina, who was born on Sept. 11, 2001, was involved in many activities, from ballet to baseball.” By displaying this information the media changes our views completely. It’s sad, but I’ll bet that the fact that a little girl died helped journalists and news writers draw readers’ attentions.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Sara,
ReplyDeleteI agree that guns are unnecessary and only specific officials should be allowed to own them. I am aware that they are a form of protection, but if they are all eliminated we may be able to achieve a safer environment. It's sad that people can believe that violence is the only way to overcome others. This view is being even more introduced by video games, movies, etc.
Violence shouldn't be the ultimate power and a mentally unstable man (who is contributing nothing to our society) shouldn't be the reason that politicians are dead.
In response to Louis,
ReplyDeleteYES. It's pathetic that we can read a news story about a tragic event and then return to facebook like nothing has happened.
Serious shit is going down everyday, but we're too separated from these events to care. Most of us believe that we live in our own bubble and that things happening across the country cannot affect us.
I also agree that mentally unstable citizens should be given the treatment and evaluation they deserve. Our expenses would be a lot less significant if we went to the source of the problem.
After reading the article I found it hard to believe that this young man took the risk to end the lives of innocent individuals. Among the people that were killed was a nine year old girl, who just wanted to learn more about politics. Congresswomen Gabrielle Giffords, who the people came to see, was left with a bullet wound to the head and she is in critical condition. Jared Loughner who is the alleged shooter is descried to be mentally unstable. I feel that violence in America has gotten out of hand. Why should we solve problems we have with individual’s using firearms and other weapons? What happened to words, why not sit the person down and address the issue face to face? I don’t understand how the security that was around let Loughner shoot thirty-one bullets into the crowed standing only four feet away from Giffords. This makes me question not only the security of the nation, but my own personal security. I think the government should take blame for this melee. Allowing a person who is mentally unstable, purchase a firearm should not have happened. Arrested multiple times, getting kicked out of school, posting racial comments and making videos on the internet, and also smoking pot proved that he was a threat. This is a tragic event that occurred. Now families have to deal with the fact that either their loved one is gone forever or they are fighting for their life. It is not justified that we as Americans have to use acts of violence as the solution to our problems.
ReplyDeleteMy first response to this article is one of utter surprise. I cant comprehend what would possess someone to do something so tragic and harmful with innocent bystanders involved. It seems so unnecessary that a dislike for someones view would probe them to go to the extreme of taking peoples lives. I believe that someone cannot be in the right state of mind when acting in this way. I was also quite interested by the fact that two people tackled the gunner to the ground before he shot another bullet. I cannot imagine the courage it would take to do something like that, risking your safety for the safety of others.
ReplyDeleteThe other thing I find interesting about this article, is it really points out how the way violence should be discussed is important to how we as the people view violence in our society. When I read about how on Sarah Palin's website and how she put cross hairs up, on the one hand I dont view it as a big deal but I do see how it relates to how we portray violence in the political realm. I think it is certainly not something to play around with even in the smallest of ways, like the cross hairs, because you never know what message it will send someone.
Response to Shana:
ReplyDeleteI agree Shana, the goverment should have taken the use of firearms more serious. Most crimes invole guns and if the government would stop the purchase of guns being bought in America, then maybe the number of crimes would decrease and this world would be a much safer place.
response to Meredith G:
ReplyDeleteI do agree with Meredith in that I feel that this particular situation may have been blown out of proportion a bit. The reality of our society is that there are people who are unstable and how turn to violence in order to "solve their problem". Yet I also believe the situation of the Gifford shooting is blown to be a bigger deal because of the political tie it has. I believe when someone in political power is harmed, or severely injured in Gifford's case, the news immediately picks up on it and many or articles and written about it then any other shooting that occurs.
To Willie:
ReplyDeleteYou are so right, we as americans need to wake and and start paying attention to those who are mentally unstable. If he had recieved the help he desired and the government would have acted quicker, this assaination attempt would have not taken place. I also agree with your comment on how the security basically let him get away with shooting all those bullets. It is really hard to understand that they were there to protect the congresswomen, yet she still ended up wounded.
response to Sara:
ReplyDeleteI agree with Sara that guns should not be able to be sold.. unless sold to a hunter, who has been thoroughly investigated for not being a psychopath and will only be killing animals. I feel the violence level in states where it is legal to buy a gun would be that much lower. It would make it harder for certain people to obtain the weapon, of course this would not solve the problem of people buying guns in other states, but it would definitely make it harder.
I'm watching Obama speak on the memorial for the shooting victims live on abc. It's great.
ReplyDeleteTo the vixen,
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting to me whether the press and the media or the media would consider it an assassination if Gabrielle Giffords were to die. Do they consider this a politically motivated killing? The other point that you bring up also interests me. This is whether being viewed by many aspects of society such as the military and his school as being mentally unstable makes him more subject and susceptible the strong opposing views such as Sarah Palin. There has to be hundreds of people just like him lost and rejected from society that may be subject as was Loughner to such targeted hate. Who is responsible for the influence of others, the ones being influenced or the people influencing? Obviously Loughner should be punished for his terrible crimes he is the only one at fault but this tragedy brings out some interesting and sensitive subjects.
Speaking on part of the assassination attempt of the Arizona congresswoman Gifford, I have two simple observations I keep pondering. One is Jared Lee Loughner’s, the assailant, psychopathic tendencies assassination and murder, and two the lack of security at this event. First, I understand how some people dislike the direction their government is heading, but these disgruntled folks for the most part stay and even keel and dispense their dissatisfaction in a civil manner, others, which include Loughner will stop at nothing until their beliefs are met, and these assailants could even become irrational. Which leads to why he killed a nine year-old student government participant, I don’t think anyone could possibly begin to understand why he would do this, and solidifies my assumption of psychopathic unmotivated killing streak loosely based politically on Loughner’s idea of a new currency. Secondly, security personnel knew of threats made to Congress on numerous accounts, which leads me to wonder why they let this killing rampage claim as many victims as it did, these are professionals trained for these types of situations. Yet, they let the death total reach a staggering six people and thirteen wounded, before two men acted against this mad man and for their country and tackled him. After more dust clears I hope more answers appear because as of this moment the people of this country know very little, Gifford’s chances are optimistic, but I’m not getting my hopes up. What really strands news followers in the dark is one question they are all hoping will be answered, “why?” Why did Loughner see this as the only option and why did it even happen? Hopefully these questions will be answered in a short few days.
ReplyDelete@louis I agree that the world is becoming too desensitized to these wrongful acts of violence and need to take part more in our democracy. Voters need to have remorse, remorse for the vistims and their families and also remorse as they watch the future of our Nation spiral down a really large toilet. But they rather watch re-runs of Jersey Shore...whats more important "The Situation" or the situation of our slowly declining govermental control?
ReplyDeleteAlso i want to respind to anyone who said she's dead...did you read the article? Obviously not, you guys must be people i mentioned in my previous post who are more worried about "The Situation" in Jersey and every other pop-culture bullshit distraction that is making our government turn the mush, it's said to think some of you can vote soon. I cry a little inside thinking that the rest of my life the nation will be controlled by the votes of my media brain-washed peers...read the article..god...
ReplyDeleteTo Willie and Danielle
ReplyDeleteIts is not the job of the U.S. government to take care of people like this or get them before they have this mental break down. It is there families jobs the people who take care of them and live with them to notice what is going on with them. The government cant take care of everybody, some have to do for themselves.
Unconnected, though I will start by giving my condolences to families, and friends as well. To shoot a woman when you're only three or four feet away from her takes real deep-down hate. But hate over a health-care law, or hate because she's not one of the new-blooming tea-partiers? Hate for any reason ended in several shot people, including innocent bystanders and members of the congresswomans staff.
ReplyDeleteThe imput of Sara Palin is what truly angered me. She was cold, and I now see her as mistrustful. Some people are just meant to to celebrities of reality-shows and not real life.
When I imagine the scene in my head the first image is fear. Are people in our country feeling so repressed that they need to shoot our congress people? Is there something so wrong with our democracy that people feel their views are not being projected by figureheads; I'm sure. The fact that "Gabby" had "tweeted" beforehand that she was open to opinions and comments from those listening to her speech saddens me. She was open and concerned with how people felt about the job she was doing, and apparently that's not enough.
(Side note: where was the secret service, why was that man allowed within three feet of her with a loaded gun.)
Now I wonder, where after she comes out of this (and hopefully she does) will she stand on her politics. If I were her, I would be very afraid to give my opinion out as a congresswoman, though it's a shame to have to feel that way.
In response to Celia, I agree completely that it's sad to see someone resort to violence as a way to get attention. Seriously, its just the person doing something drastic to get attention because they feel seriously neglected. So they think that doing something that rattles the nation (or not at all, because like i said earlier, people are way too damn desensitized these days), they believe they will be getting the attention they need.
ReplyDeletePeople who resort to violence are mentally disturbed, to a degree. In cases like this, they are beyond malicious intent and enter the realm of mental disturbances, psychological diseases, etc. Also, like I said earlier, people need the attention or else they'll go and do something like that.
ZACH M:
ReplyDeleteI find it strange that Loughner's marijuana use was brought up so many times. It was casual, not even written by those who wrote the article, only in quotes. But the inclusion of these quotes raises the question of some kind of subliminal intention. Could this situation be used to counter the ever-growing decriminalization of marijuana in the United States? This Tucson incident will undoubtedly be used for some kind of political angle for someone, as national tragedies usual are (see 9/11). Right now it looks like Obama is stepping up to the plate, perhaps this will benefit his political career. It's almost disgusting to think about violence and people dying in this way, but it seems to be the way that things happen now. Other people's unfathomable losses and tragedies are used by others in ways to benefit them, or a cause they believe in. All kinds of explanations will be used to tell people why Loughner did what he did, but will any of them be correct? The search for 'truth' in America is becoming an increasingly fruitless one.
@ ZAchary:
ReplyDeleteUhm, I agree with you that smoking marijuana probobally has nothing to do with his shooting the congresswoman. I can bet that over half of the people in this room smoke from time to time and you don't see them shooting teachers when they don't agree with what they're saying.
Obama was accused of smoking marijuana when he was first being elected, but maybe people realized that was stupid.
Good call Zach, I must have passed over that in the article. It's stupid that people look for silly little reason's to explain madness. Some people are just a little..."tweaked".
@Savannah
ReplyDeleteI think the level of her political importance has something to do with how much security was there.
@Louis
I'm not sure if this was a cry for attention. I don't know for sure obviously, but I'm guessing that it wasn't. I think that it's almost impossible to fathom what goes on inside someone's head when they've reached the level of shooting randomly into a crowd of innocent people.
@ Louis @ Celia
ReplyDeleteDo you think he wanted to "rattle the nation" to get attention, or that he did it for deeper reasons? I think that shooting this congresswoman in particular shows that it wasn't a seek for attention. When Oswald shot JFK he created a HUGE political stir, but still nobody really knows his motives, but it was clear that he wanted to specifically shoot JFK. I think this is the same. The other 6 people (RIP) that he shot may have been to make a bigger point, and to draw more attention to the situation, but I think that shooting Gabriella in the first place was more than just a cry for attention. Though we havent pinpointed it yet, I think there was some deep political reasons.
Maybe it's true he wasn't being heard, but not in a "my life sucks" way, but in a democratic "you aren't paying attention to my views" mindset.
Just a thought.
Joe Gleason
ReplyDeleteIn response to Vincent
I do not think that in this country that political rhetoric directly results in such violent acts. I do agree however that words have consequences. Although we should not blame the shooting on the words of various politicians, we should start a discussion about toning down rhetoric and not using violent imagery and words but rather having civil discussions about issues. You do not need violent messages to be a passionate and exciting speaker.
There is obviously no sign of sympathy deep down in this man. He shows no sign of regret for killing nine human beings. He himself does not have the right to kill others, and his decisions were harsh and cruel, but that doesn’t give us the right to exterminate him and take his life away. If he doesn’t spend the rest of his life in a psychiatric home the death penalty should very well be considered. There is no reason he shouldn’t have to suffer and face crucial consequences. I believe a psychiatric home is the place where he belongs.
ReplyDeleteShawn Powell II
ReplyDeletePersonally, no one should think that this murder is any different from any murder that occurs. Something clicks in a human being to justify that what they’re doing is suitable, whether it’s a mental condition, rage or regular instinct it can happen. Which is why (a human like Jared Lee Loughner who was called “just a deranged individual” and 11 year old Jordan Brown who killed his step mom who was pregnant) this is no different than the person reading this response. His kill wasn’t politically motivated more so a random violent act. He created a tragic event but tweeted saying he was simply attending the event. He made no symblininal message which he would of if he planned on making this an assassination, so he bought bullets traveling to two separate Wal-Mart’s to buy bullets just to literally have in his head to make a kill. I just don’t believe it was politically motivated if he had a since of wanting to support the event.
Justin Blake:
ReplyDeleteI couldn’t agree more with the majority of the statements that you made, there has been a sudden outburst of violence during our recent years of recession. If frightens me to know that this isn’t an uncommon event. People don’t react to this situation the way they should. I find it amazing how one could hear about these stories on the news and not be terrified for their own lives. I think people will wake up and realize this is reality, and this is the world we live in when something horrific such as this happens to some one that they’re familiar with
Response to Nita (who i was told is Bonita),
ReplyDeleteYes, humans are primal, we rely on primal instincts completely everything we say and do is emotion and based on feeling. This is why we are no different from this man, he went through a lot of emotional breakups and despite his condition he simply just had a breaking point. A breaking point is a level in which a human can break sown and just completely be uncivil, killing someone or anything as simple as an insult comes from a level of frustration where u let go everything you have been taught in the social normal since. He’s no different from us, Jared Lougner or Shawn Powell we are all the same.
In repsonse to Eliza's post:
ReplyDeleteShe pointed out things I didn't even think about. I agree, mentioning certain things probably caused people to think differently about this article then they would without it. It is very sad that that little girl died though.
in response to Joseph Gleason:
ReplyDeleteI agree with Joe. This man who committed crime obviously has a lot of problems and he does need help. But should people be nice to him? No! A little child died!
This whole situation is not good. But any situation where a disturbed man who definitely should not have a gun has one and uses it in sloppy ways where people end up injured and dead. Especially if a child is killed. I think it is dumb that this man committed this crime and got caught. He should have spent months and months planning and preparing for this. There is no point of doing this if you're going to get caught. To top it off he killed people that have nothing to do with anything. Disturbed AND dumb come on now. David Cleveland's statements make no sense. Why would this one man's action make you feel the need to go somewhere else. It is not like other random crazies are going to come out of nowhere and shoot random people for no reason. Basically it is never good when people resort to violent acts such as these and it is a shame that it will most likely continue to happen forever.
ReplyDeleteJAMESY:
ReplyDeleteYou’re absolutely correct. People shouldn’t be afraid because of this, they should be aware. It’s not like this is the first time something like this has took place recently. We should be old enough to comprehend the fact that events like this take place often in our country. It’s physically impossible to stop every “crazy” from turning their evil thoughts in their heads into reality. There are so many different varieties of people that are included in our everyday lives, unfortunately, lunatics also just so happen to be among us.
Amanda's
ReplyDeleteThe assassination attempt in Arizona left many shocked. There isn’t any really good reason for having a loaded gun and shooting what ever is in sight?? Personally there is no good excuse to kill innocent people let alone babies that have nothing to do with it. Stupidity acts happen everyday. I’m glad she was a fighter and survived this horrible attempt. But if students and teachers knew about what this guy was goin threw why didn’t any body step up and say something. If you see someone going threw issues try to help them don’t just make it worse by knocking him, off campus because you think he’s crazy. This whole thing is bananas! Was it really congress woman fault why was she the one who had to be shot. Its crazy to see or hear the things people do when they get mad.
@ wille i agree with you clearly every body knew he was going crazy so this shouldn't be a suprise to the community. government seems to only take action at the last minute. all of this could have been avoided if people took time out of their day to seen if he was alright. but then again he should have tryed to get help his self. and it doesn't give him the right to harm some one els just because he's mad.
ReplyDelete